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Friday, April 27, 2007

The End of Limbo

Further to our discussion last Sunday, Peter found the interesting articles below.

ROME - 23 April 2007 - 200 words

Vatican issues report on 'limbo'

The theological hypothesis of 'limbo' appears to have been based on an "unduly restrictive view of salvation," according to a report published on Friday by the International Theological Commission.

The 41-page document says the issue presents an "urgent pastoral problem" because of the large number of unbaptized babies who die through abortion. It concludes that there are serious theological and liturgical grounds for the hope that such babies are saved and enjoy the beatific vision.

The commission's documents are not considered official expressions of the magisterium. But they do help the Holy See examine important doctrinal issues.

The Catechism of the Catholic Church in No. 1261 explains: 'As regards children who have died without baptism, the Church can only entrust them to the mercy of God, as she does in her funeral rites for them.

'Indeed, the great mercy of God who desires that all men should be saved, and Jesus' tenderness toward children which caused him to say: 'Let the children come to me, do not hinder them,' allow us to hope that there is a way of salvation for children who have died without baptism.'

Source: VIS

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The End of Limbo What happens to all the babies who used to be there?

By Michelle Tsai
Posted Monday, April 23, 2007, at 6:59 PM ET

The Vatican announced on Friday the results of a papal investigation of the concept of limbo. Church doctrine now states that unbaptized babies can go to Heaven instead of getting stuck somewhere between heaven and hell. If limbo doesn't exist, what happened to everyone who was supposed to have been there already?

They've probably been in heaven all this time, but no one knows for sure. Until the recent announcement, the limbo crowd was thought to include anyone who hadn't been baptized but would otherwise deserve to go to heaven—like infants (including aborted fetuses), virtuous pagans, and pre-Christian Jews. Those who had been baptized, on the other hand, either joined God in heaven, made up for their sins in purgatory, or suffered forever in hell.

If limbo never existed in the first place, you might assume that these souls passed straight through St. Peter's gates. But the carefully worded document from the Vatican's International Theological Commission stops short of certainty in this regard, arguing only that there are "serious theological and liturgical grounds for hope," rather than "sure knowledge."

The fate of unbaptized babies has confounded Catholic scholars for centuries. According to church catechisms , or teachings, babies that haven't been splashed with holy water bear the original sin, which makes them ineligible for joining God in heaven. At the same time, as innocent beings, they surely don't deserve eternal torment. St. Augustine concluded in the fourth century that the babies must be punished in the fire of hell, but only with the " mildest condemnation ." Eight centuries later, Thomas Aquinas thought infant souls wouldn't go to heaven, but they wouldn't suffer in the afterlife, either (and they wouldn't even know what they were missing


Tuesday, April 24, 2007

FaithWorx - The Sacraments, Part II - Sunday 6:30pm St Johns Hall Meeting Room

Last week we had a very interesting and thought provoking discussion about the sacrament of baptism. Some of the things we talked about included: what baptism means; the historical context; who can receive baptism and when; the difference between christianity, islam, and judaism on the question of original sin; how does Catholic baptism differ from other denominations; and how you can explain baptism to non-Christians.
You are invited to join us this week as we continue to uncover
The Sacraments
This week we will focus on Confirmation and the Eucharist. You are welcome to join our discussion and raise your own questions and comments. Share in the knowledge and experience of the Campbelltown Parish to enrich our faith.
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Where: St John's Hall meeting room
TIme: Sunday 6:30pm (following 5pm mass)

Monday, April 16, 2007

FaithWorx - The Sacraments, What are they good for? - Sunday 6:30pm St Johns Hall Meeting Room

You are invited to join us over the next two weeks to consider
The Sacraments
Are the sacraments still the same as we learnt at school? Are the sacraments still relevant today? How can I explain the Catholic sacraments to non-Catholics?
Beginning next Sunday night at 6:30pm in the St John's Hall meeting room you are welcome to join our discussion and raise your own questions and comments.
Share in the knowledge and experience of the Campbelltown Parish to enrich our faith.
Suggested Links:
Where: St John's Hall meeting room
TIme: Sunday 6:30pm (following 5pm mass)

Friday, April 13, 2007

Hello World,
This is Brother John communicating on the new Blogspot for our parish.
We are always on the lookout for good ideas to build our Parish Community.
Currently we are preparing for World Youth Day in 2008, so any enthusiastic locals are encouraged to get involved.
Our Celebation of Pentecost will be something special as well, and people with Song or Art in their veins should feel at home in the celebration.
Thanks to Sean for kicking off the Blog,
I hope a lot of people get involved.
God Bless!

FaithWorx - Bible Study - Sunday 6:30pm

FaithWorx recommences this Sunday at 6:30pm in the St John's Campbelltown Hall meeting room with Bible Study, looking at the readings for this week
     Bible Study
     Second Sunday of Easter
     Acts 5:12-16
     Rev 1:9-11a, 12-13, 17-19
     Jn 20:19-31
Some links of interest:
We were saddened by the loss of Father Charles Kakumanu and Father Stephen O'Donnell from Lismore diocese in a car accident last week. Join us in praying for all involved in this tragic event.